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	<title>Comments on: Better sex education should be a family value</title>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
		<link>http://www.clairestamant.com/2008/06/24/better-sex-education-should-be-a-family-value/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,



Claire I like your entry!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Claire I like your entry!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Miguelito Romerino</title>
		<link>http://www.clairestamant.com/2008/06/24/better-sex-education-should-be-a-family-value/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguelito Romerino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a solution that will make everyone happy.  Chastity belts!  I hear they have new lighter metals that would reduce the back pain from having to wear something heavy like that around all of the time!

At the end of the day, kids are going to have sex.  I&#039;m completely against abortion, but I&#039;ll settle for reduced unwanted babies.

Pills and condoms for everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a solution that will make everyone happy.  Chastity belts!  I hear they have new lighter metals that would reduce the back pain from having to wear something heavy like that around all of the time!</p>
<p>At the end of the day, kids are going to have sex.  I&#8217;m completely against abortion, but I&#8217;ll settle for reduced unwanted babies.</p>
<p>Pills and condoms for everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://www.clairestamant.com/2008/06/24/better-sex-education-should-be-a-family-value/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your statistics about the improper use of condoms and birth control by &quot;poor, cohabiting teens&quot; are further proof that sex education is in need of reform. If a &quot;middle-aged, middle-class married woman&quot; can use such prevention methods more effectively, then I believe teens can also be taught to do so.

The &quot;we&quot; I am referring to was intentionally broad. We, as in you and me, need to take an interest in this issue because it affects all of us. We can&#039;t just hole away in our gated communities and only worry that our own children know about safe sex and the importance of waiting until they are married.

We need more youth mentors for at-risk children. We need more funding for sex education in public schools, and we need to stop using accusatory language against the &quot;poor, cohabiting teenager&quot; who probably never had an adult in their life to set a positive example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your statistics about the improper use of condoms and birth control by &#8220;poor, cohabiting teens&#8221; are further proof that sex education is in need of reform. If a &#8220;middle-aged, middle-class married woman&#8221; can use such prevention methods more effectively, then I believe teens can also be taught to do so.</p>
<p>The &#8220;we&#8221; I am referring to was intentionally broad. We, as in you and me, need to take an interest in this issue because it affects all of us. We can&#8217;t just hole away in our gated communities and only worry that our own children know about safe sex and the importance of waiting until they are married.</p>
<p>We need more youth mentors for at-risk children. We need more funding for sex education in public schools, and we need to stop using accusatory language against the &#8220;poor, cohabiting teenager&#8221; who probably never had an adult in their life to set a positive example.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.clairestamant.com/2008/06/24/better-sex-education-should-be-a-family-value/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And when these kids have kids, the same conservative policies that led to their births will begrudge them welfare and discriminate against them in the workforce.&quot;

Uh, sure.  But the liberal business owners will all hire them and the liberals will donate their own money to help them, right?

&quot;As scary as it may be, we have to start trusting our children. We have to tell them the truth about sex.&quot;

Who is &quot;we?&quot; The gov&#039;t?  Planned Parenthood?  &quot;We&quot; (my wife and I) have those discussions with our children.

Of course Planned Parenthood and liberal groups hate abstinence programs.  And Burger King probably wishes McDonald’s wasn’t around.  But even by Planned Parenthood’s own stats they are a dismal failure at contraception for youths.  Overall failure rates for contraceptives (mainly the pill and condoms) are “only” 1 in 8, but things get ugly when you look at sub-groups:

A poor cohabiting teenager using the Pill has a failure rate of 48.4%. You read that correctly: nearly half of poor cohabiting teenagers get pregnant during their first year using the Pill.

Over 70% of poor, cohabiting teenagers using condoms, will be pregnant within a year. By contrast, the middle-aged, middle-class married woman has a 6% chance of pregnancy after a year of condom use.

More here: http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/abstinence-still-the-best-option/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And when these kids have kids, the same conservative policies that led to their births will begrudge them welfare and discriminate against them in the workforce.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, sure.  But the liberal business owners will all hire them and the liberals will donate their own money to help them, right?</p>
<p>&#8220;As scary as it may be, we have to start trusting our children. We have to tell them the truth about sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who is &#8220;we?&#8221; The gov&#8217;t?  Planned Parenthood?  &#8220;We&#8221; (my wife and I) have those discussions with our children.</p>
<p>Of course Planned Parenthood and liberal groups hate abstinence programs.  And Burger King probably wishes McDonald’s wasn’t around.  But even by Planned Parenthood’s own stats they are a dismal failure at contraception for youths.  Overall failure rates for contraceptives (mainly the pill and condoms) are “only” 1 in 8, but things get ugly when you look at sub-groups:</p>
<p>A poor cohabiting teenager using the Pill has a failure rate of 48.4%. You read that correctly: nearly half of poor cohabiting teenagers get pregnant during their first year using the Pill.</p>
<p>Over 70% of poor, cohabiting teenagers using condoms, will be pregnant within a year. By contrast, the middle-aged, middle-class married woman has a 6% chance of pregnancy after a year of condom use.</p>
<p>More here: <a href="http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/abstinence-still-the-best-option/" rel="nofollow">http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2007/09/17/abstinence-still-the-best-option/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
		<link>http://www.clairestamant.com/2008/06/24/better-sex-education-should-be-a-family-value/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not appreciate your gratuitous mischaracterisation of my post.

These girls were not trying to avoid pregnancy.  They were not unmindful of it, nor were they ignorant about birth control.  They deliberately got themselves pregnant - one was even so determined to have a child that she enlisted the help of a homeless man to get her pregnant.

Giving birth control (and the appropriate education) to girls who want to get pregnant is silly.  As I said in my post, it&#039;s like giving a fire extinguisher to an arsonist: a great idea in theory, but absolutely inapplicable in this situation.

It is nothing save foolish to use the tragic situation in Gloucester as an excuse to push any type (abstinence-only, comprehensive, et al) of sex education.  These girls are not accidentally pregnant; anything which seeks to reduce accidental pregnancy is a moot point.

I suspect, however, that you&#039;ve elided that crucial fact in your post because it does not fit within your agenda for government-mandated sex education.  There was once a day when liberals (rightly) feared government intrusion into so personal an area of human existence and decried the attempts of people to institute proper ways of thinking.  No more, alas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not appreciate your gratuitous mischaracterisation of my post.</p>
<p>These girls were not trying to avoid pregnancy.  They were not unmindful of it, nor were they ignorant about birth control.  They deliberately got themselves pregnant &#8211; one was even so determined to have a child that she enlisted the help of a homeless man to get her pregnant.</p>
<p>Giving birth control (and the appropriate education) to girls who want to get pregnant is silly.  As I said in my post, it&#8217;s like giving a fire extinguisher to an arsonist: a great idea in theory, but absolutely inapplicable in this situation.</p>
<p>It is nothing save foolish to use the tragic situation in Gloucester as an excuse to push any type (abstinence-only, comprehensive, et al) of sex education.  These girls are not accidentally pregnant; anything which seeks to reduce accidental pregnancy is a moot point.</p>
<p>I suspect, however, that you&#8217;ve elided that crucial fact in your post because it does not fit within your agenda for government-mandated sex education.  There was once a day when liberals (rightly) feared government intrusion into so personal an area of human existence and decried the attempts of people to institute proper ways of thinking.  No more, alas.</p>
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